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Felipe



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Location: Monterrey Mexico

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:51 pm    Post subject: Would you like to help Mexican Catolicism? Reply with quote

Hello:

On behalf of Una Voce México, I would like to ask your kind help to spread the celebration of the Traditional Mass in México.

Right now we need Altar Missals, used or new ones. Several diocesan priest across the country are willing to say the Tridentine Mass, but it is almost impossible for them to acquire or afford their Altar Missal.

Now we need more than 10 Altar Missals and besides of it, any kind of help will be appreciated

Please, if you want to help, contact us at: info@unavocemx.org
you can also visit our web site form more info about us: http://unavocemx.org

God bless you all.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Felipe

What about contacting the Society of Saint Pius X:

Fraternidad Sacerdotal San Pio X
Mexico District headquarters:
Priorato Nuestra Senora de Guadalupe
Calle Jaime Torres Bodet 237
Col. Santa Maria La Ribera
06400 MEXICO, DF
Tel. [52] 55-5547-4324

They have Four Priories and 24 Chapels and Churches across Mexico
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pecador wrote:
Hello Felipe

What about contacting the Society of Saint Pius X:

Fraternidad Sacerdotal San Pio X
Mexico District headquarters:
Priorato Nuestra Senora de Guadalupe
Calle Jaime Torres Bodet 237
Col. Santa Maria La Ribera
06400 MEXICO, DF
Tel. [52] 55-5547-4324

They have Four Priories and 24 Chapels and Churches across Mexico


They already have the Priests, it is Missals that they need. So, how will contacting the Society help?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GiralamoSavonarola wrote:
pecador wrote:
Hello Felipe

What about contacting the Society of Saint Pius X:

Fraternidad Sacerdotal San Pio X
Mexico District headquarters:
Priorato Nuestra Senora de Guadalupe
Calle Jaime Torres Bodet 237
Col. Santa Maria La Ribera
06400 MEXICO, DF
Tel. [52] 55-5547-4324

They have Four Priories and 24 Chapels and Churches across Mexico


They already have the Priests, it is Missals that they need. So, how will contacting the Society help?

Because the SSPX has also the Missals, the Training and the Traditional Catholic Theology behind it... The SSPX has had them since 1969.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pecador wrote:
Because the SSPX has also the Missals, the Training and the Traditional Catholic Theology behind it... The SSPX has had them since 1969.

Doesn't it stand to reason that the SSPX needs the altar missals for their own missions?

Do you want to help spread the Latin Mass or centralize it under the SSPX?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

“Do you want to help spread the Latin Mass or centralize it under the SSPX?” (dcs)
I think Pecador and most of us here want to help spread the traditional Catholic Faith. Spreading the Mass without the Faith that goes along with it won’t help our cause any. Besides, I have seen Extraordinary Masses which were not reverent, and could not have pleased our Lord much more than a NO Mass. Modernists and ecumenists celebrating the old Mass because it’s new and different to them and because it’s in fashion, but celebrating it their own way, is not a step up. If these priests truly seek to conform to tradition, let them come to the Society of St. Pius X, where they will learn to be holier, more knowledgeable priests.
Rather than members of the SSPX surrendering valuable missals to modernists in hopes of accomplishing a lesser evil in the mainstream Church, let the diocesan priests show the SSPX that they want not only the Mass, but the traditional way of life that is inseparable from it. If they are not willing to do this, the good Mexican Catholics who seek Catholicism in its former fullness and glory must find traditional priests, such as those of the SSPX.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But there are many people who will not assist at SSPX Masses. Do we want them to go to the TLM or just continue going to the Novus Ordo?

It seems mighty strange that the SSPX would fight for the right of ALL Roman Rite priests to celebrate the TLM if they want those priests to somehow "prove" themselves to the SSPX.

If you don't want to provide material assistance, then don't - but don't make out that not providing material assistance is some sort of virtue.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dcs, please note that I was not speaking for the SSPX in my previous comment, but for my own point of view. I don't know what the stance of the SSPX is on this matter. Laymen have donated missals to the SSPX to be used by the SSPX, so we laymen have a right to at least say what we think about how they should be used, though the decision is not made by us (and should not be.) The SSPX does not have an abundance of traditional Catholic missals. I am convinced that most laymen would rather see these resources used in SSPX chapels, or at least by traditional priests (not just NO priests who also say the traditional Mass.) This way they are less likely to end up in hands of those who would throw them in the garbage.

If priests are of good will, there is no reason why they should not be willing to live lives according to the traditional Faith, and to guide their parishioners to do the same. Might they not undergo persecution for being traditional Catholic? Almost certainly. But priests, as well as laymen, are not supposed to compromise the Faith to escape persecution. Again, the traditional Catholic Mass and way of life are inseparable. A soul that strives for one and not the other is not pleasing to God. Let the priests interact with the SSPX, or at the very least, be openly traditional and reject the irreverent NO. I would hope the SSPX or any similar group would expect this at the least before handing over Catholic missals.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Krysza wrote:
I would hope the SSPX or any similar group would expect this at the least before handing over Catholic missals.

Ah, I see, perhaps I was not clear. I was not saying that the SSPX should hand their missals over to other priests, in fact I said that the SSPX would need them for their own chapels.

I was simply saying that those who will not go to SSPX chapels (my understanding is that the SSPX has not made great inroads in Latin America) should not be left out in the cold with no TLM.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CAPPELANÍA DE SAN PEDRO APÓSTOL
de la Fraternidad Sacerdotal San Pedro
Tapalpa 56
Vallarta Poniente
Guadalajara, Jalisco 44110
33-3647-8241
http://fsspmx.org/



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Lunes-sabado: 8:00am, 7:00pm
Domingo: 9:00am (rezada), 11:00am (cantada), 7:00pm (rezada)
confesiones antes, durante y después de cada misa, y a pedido
hora santa, 6pm, (jue, dom)

Capellán P. Kenneth Fryar FSSP padre.fryar@gmail.com

Vicario P. Jonathan Romanoski FSSP padre.romo.@gmail.com
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:43 am    Post subject: Re: Would you like to help Mexican Catolicism? Reply with quote

Hello Felipe;

I suggest contacting traditional Catholic book publishers for the Missals,
and for any other books that you might need. Also, see if they will give
you permission for a limited printing at a printshop in Mexico. That way
you could save a lot of money on both copies and shipping.

Also, Father Fryar is already located in Guadalajara; I'm sure that he
would be able to help you train altar servers and help out in other ways.
Father Fryar is with the FSSP, and he provides a daily traditional Mass
to the people there.

Also, perhaps you could look at Father Fryar's Church in Guadalajara as
a training location, and as a sort of base of operations from which to
propagate the Latin Mass and the Catholic faith to the rest of Mexico.

If you want to get in touch with Father Fryar, either contact the FSSP
at http://www.fssp.org/ and tell them that you want to reach their
Apostolate in Guadalajara; or send me a private message.



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Felipe



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Location: Monterrey Mexico

PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks pecador, GiralamoSavonarola, dcs, Krysza, Orapronobis, and daffyduck.

The issue is that we can't make any judgment about if a priest deserves or not to have an Altar Missal. Our task is to spread the use and the knowledge of the Traditional Mass (and it's lex orandi lex credendi).

Many lay people who attend the fsspx, fssp and others are working with us across the country.

As you maybe know, the Altar Missals are expensives, so what we need is the resources to buy them.

So, if you think you could afford the cost of one or more, please don't hesitate to contact us at:
info@unavocemx.org

Thanks in advance. God bless you.
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St. Domenic



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Felipe wrote:
Thanks pecador, GiralamoSavonarola, dcs, Krysza, Orapronobis, and daffyduck.

The issue is that we can't make any judgment about if a priest deserves or not to have an Altar Missal. Our task is to spread the use and the knowledge of the Traditional Mass (and it's lex orandi lex credendi).

Many lay people who attend the fsspx, fssp and others are working with us across the country.

As you maybe know, the Altar Missals are expensives, so what we need is the resources to buy them.

So, if you think you could afford the cost of one or more, please don't hesitate to contact us at:
info@unavocemx.org



Thanks in advance. God bless you.


Hola amigo mio,

I will contact you to send either a missal or $200, whichever you prefer.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you very much St Domenic. God bless you.
The Missal would be better. I'll contact you in a pm.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I promise to have a Tridentine Mass offered for each donor who sends a Missal to Felipe.

Our family assists Traditionalist whether SSPX - like Fr. McMahon's OL of La Salette Academy - or the Institute. Come on fellows, if I can donate, others on this list can do so also.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Felipe,

Preserving Christian Publications will be shipping you one, red missal. The order is being processed this very afternoon.

Perhaps it would be good to look into starting a Mexican publication. I don't know what that would involve, but the missals published here at PCP have special sections pertinent to American dioceses. However, that is all I could find for you.

God bless. I pray every Mexican priest needing one will be able to obtain a book. The Mexican church has have some catching up to do, you know. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

typing error: omit the "have", please.

Thank you. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Felipe,

Please read your pm. Contact me. I can get you a couple more missals.

If anybody else would care to help Una Voce Mexico, I have found great deals on the Missals. Contact me, and perhaps together we could send Mexican priests several.

After all, we do not want to appear before God all mouth and very little or no action like Bishop Burke. (sarcasm)
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