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Augustine



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 9:49 am    Post subject: Dear God! Reply with quote

I have been out for a few days, but had to come in to post this. My God! Have mercy on us! If I were not at work I'd be crying like a baby right now! Penance, my friends!

Foetuses found at Bogota airport

Colombian police have found the bodies of three human foetuses hidden in statues destined for the United States.
The discovery was made by officers searching for contraband at Bogota Airport on Tuesday.

The corpses were wrapped in plastic and concealed inside statues of Christian icons, which were smashed open.

Colombian police chief Gen Jord Alirio Varon said the four- to five-month-old foetuses could have been intended for use in Satanic rituals.

Gen Varon said the foetuses were found alongside crucifixes and medals.

He said officials are trying to find out who sent the packages, which came from Barranquilla in Colombia and were destined for Miami in the US.


Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/americas/4293934.stm

Published: 2005/09/29 13:18:07 GMT

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JMJ

Somebody explain what the hell's the difference between this and "safe and legal" abortions! We're mad!

But this must be after "the end of the era of lust for human power and evil," as Msgr. Bertone so prophetically announced on June 26, 2000. If this is the the period of peace Our Lady of Fatima came to bring, again announced by Msgr. B on November 17, 2001, then bring back the good old days of lust for human power and evil.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is sick, wish I didn't read this one. I wonder if these statues would have been detected. I mean its logical to think they were destined to be used for something but what if its just to mock our Lord or some devout old lady who puts this in her home. The reason I say this is because before I came to Tradition I bought a buddha statue for my work, thought it was very decorative. I had a co-worker of mine who was also slowly being guided to the True Faith.. As we cleared our heads of the eccumania, we decided together to smash this statue into oblivion. No word of a lie as we rummaged through the remains there was an angel inside with it's wings cut off! The word is evil Christians don't doubt it for a second.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 10:30 am    Post subject: No doubts at this point about what it's all about Reply with quote

I was just telling a friend last night about the current spotlight on the priest / sex scandals that we've only seen the tip of the iceberg. The Satanic aspects of this stuff have yet to surface in the mainstream.

Fr. Malachi Martin was right it seems when he tried to bring this to light more than 25 years ago in "Hostage to the Devil" and again 15 years ago in "The Keys of This Blood" when he mentioned active Satanism within the Church.

I think it's incumbent on Catholics to bring this aspect to light. The unaware faithful and the non-Catholics have to see this scandal as an attack on the Church from within the Church and not as a natural result of percieved 'errors' in the teaching and discipline of Holy Mother Church.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On this the feastday of St. Michael the Archangel.
Please defend us in battle, be our safeguard against the wickedness and snares of the devil...
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MATER DEI, ORA PRO NOBIS!!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Despite the horrific and grim facts, this story could eventually prove to be part of something good.

People have to realize at some point, that the Church is under attack from Satanists and they have to decide which side they are going to stand on.

When they do that, Cafeteria Catholicism, Liberal Catholicism, Conservative (Neo) Catholicism will all be ready for the wastebasket.

Once people realize that they shouldn't necessarily trust their priest because he's "the" priest, but that he may be a devil in disguise not just attacking children but attacking their religion, there will be a massive lurch back to traditional Catholicism. As of today despite everything, the populace isn't so cut off from their roots that they won't recognize their Church when it's revealed to them.

Until we get a strong Pope who will do this, trads will have to do what bishop Williamson calls "the holding action" until that day.

That will possibly the only thing that holds off the arrival of AntiChrist and the massive persecution of the Church.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gerard wrote:
Despite the horrific and grim facts, this story could eventually prove to be part of something good.


I hope you are proved to be correct. My instinct is that this story has already out-lived its newsworthiness. That's why my initial post implored "Penance, my friends" because after the initial shock and sorrow is over some debt must still be repaid.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Gerard"]Once people realize that they shouldn't necessarily trust their priest because he's "the" priest, but that he may be a devil in disguise not just attacking children but attacking their religion, there will be a massive lurch back to traditional Catholicism. As of today despite everything, the populace isn't so cut off from their roots that they won't recognize their Church when it's revealed to them.

I always went out of my way to attract people (and relatives) to my SSPX chapel, by advertising, bumper stickers, etc. Over time, I realized that it is God who sends them.

Anyone who does not go to mass at all, or just goes to mass to "punch in their card", does so because they like it that way. They like their religion where they don't have to confess their sins, where they can live their life of immodest dress, free love, contraception, and soap operas.

Their "religion" is a punishment from God. That this description covers 99% of the 1 billion "Catholics" is sad. When they heed God's voice, you will see them come back to the True Church. Until then, know that there is something wrong with all of them that we just don't see.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I always went out of my way to attract people (and relatives) to my SSPX chapel, by advertising, bumper stickers, etc. Over time, I realized that it is God who sends them.


That's true but does that mean that you now do nothing? I hope not. Prudence is a virtue, as Fr. Fullerton said at Mass one time, "We don't go running into Protestant Chapels screaming for them to convert or burn in Hell. You don't get many converts that way."

However, with the virtue of Prudence, God uses others especially his faithful followers to attract more of the lost sheep. "Bring him to me." is a phrase that has always stuck with me from the Gospel. The unnamed faithful tore the roof off of Peter's house to bring the crippled man to Jesus. That was the prudent move then. Today prudence dictates something between hot-headed evangelism and isolationism.

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Anyone who does not go to mass at all, or just goes to mass to "punch in their card", does so because they like it that way.


You can't always tell who those people are. And mixed among them are people looking for something real. They may be going along with the flow because they are ignorant. They may be wanting more but not knowing that there is more. The thought of becoming Protestant might be as far from them as it is from Traditionalist Catholics but the struggle is between faith or no faith for them. But they hold on with a faint heartbeat of Catholicism that keeps them moving. They've been "mongrelized" as Fr. Malachi Martin used the term to describe the Russian people. "If you take a cultured man and reduce him to barbarity, he doesn't know he's been barbarized."

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They like their religion where they don't have to confess their sins, where they can live their life of immodest dress, free love, contraception, and soap operas.


That is the fault of the Church heirarchy for which they will individually pay the price. And it's more proof that the followers of Vatican II do not speak the languae of modern man. But that especially doesn't mean that traditional Catholics shouldn't go out and defend the faith in these dark times or fight to bring the light of truth back into the sanctuaries (or what remains of them) Most of these people don't know what the Church is. All they know is it "somehow" connects them in "someway" with God "whatever or whoever He is".

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Their "religion" is a punishment from God. That this description covers 99% of the 1 billion "Catholics" is sad.


We are all being punished by the Novus Ordo and Vatican II. Trad Catholics don't have the luxury of feeling better. We have our poor little Churches, our great distances and the scorn of society to suffer. We've had to flee the parishes our ancestors built and were baptised, married and buried in. Older trads feel betrayed and lament the destruction, Younger trads feel like they were denied the truth that they have a right to. But we don't have the poverty of ignorance especially inculpable ignorance. So our responsibilities are greater. Pity the Novus Ordoers who haven't woken up yet. Don't condemn them.

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When they heed God's voice, you will see them come back to the True Church.


Fr. Moderator of traditio has that attitude, but I prefer bishops Williamson's and Fellay's attitude. Someone has to tell these people about tradition in the Church. Certainly God's voice is being echoed in these great men.

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What we need to see is ourselves in them. "There, but for the grace of God, go I." There is a difference between planting seeds and uprooting someone's life in one brutal shot.

Fr. Malachi Martin did a wonderful job of measuring just how much truth someone was open to. When dealing with non-Catholics or people of unsophisticated beliefs, he was gentle, never pushy and gave people by his example the openness to find out more. He saved the fire and brimstone for those that needed it, the ones that knew better and still weren't paying close enough attention.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How gratifying it would've been to those satanists to have these statues adorning a Catholic Church. I am sickened through and through by this realization.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How gratifying it would've been to those satanists to have these statues adorning a Catholic Church. I am sickened through and through by this realization.


There is a silver lining in all of this. The Satanists (as an entity) are exposed. The jig is up. The war is coming out into the open. Plus, those little babies now have many people to pray for their souls in God's care, and those of the parents and or perpetrators for grace for conversion. Those are the spiritual weapons that we have to fight back with.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:20 pm    Post subject: We owe Fr Malachi something. Reply with quote

It was Fr. Malachi Martin's Hostage to the Devil that started my long walk from protestantism into the traditional Catholic faith. Before my conversion I'd been doing divination and become demonized, then saved by Our Lord in an unmerited rescue. Fr. Malachi's book accurately described the way the demons work. Then reading his Windswept House helped get me out of the Novus Ordo and into an SSPX chapel. He had his quirks, but when it came to Satanists and Satan, within and without the Church, he was dead on. May he rest in peace
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 1:26 pm    Post subject: Eastern Rite feast Protection of the Theotokos Reply with quote

The Book the Exorcist of Rome FR> Amorth
Stated that sometimes satanists will hide or insert evil objects on persons or their homes to gain the power of possession...Fr Amorth stated at times during exorcisms he would compel the offending demons to reveal the hidden objects...which would be destroyed

Oh Blessed Virgin in whom enmity with evil is your nature, crush the sepent's head and Show us the blessed fruit of thy womb JESUS!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What could they have been using the bodies for; Experimentation is the first thought in my mind. I do not think it was for any ritual Satanists or otherwise because they like live victims
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

but of course it could be mockery as many have posted in this thread.
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