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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 2:17 pm Post subject: Cardinal Kasper is "at it again"
Cardinal Kasper is "at it again"
According to John Allen in his "Word from Rome" column in the January 20, 2006, National Catholic reporter (http://www.nationalcatholicreporter.org/word/word012006.htm), Cardinal Kasper the "friendly ecumenist," received a "blessing" during an Anglican communion service from the layman who is known as the "Anglican Bishop N. T. Wright"--in the same manner as non-Catholics may receive a blessing from a priest or lay Eucharistic minister when they approach during Mass, although sometimes the non-Catholics are given Communion rather than a blessing, because the Eucharistic minister (clerical or lay) may not know who is or who is not a Catholic or may not know exactly what to do on such an occasion (remember "Brother" Roger being wheeled up to Benedict XVI and receiving Communion from him at the Pope's own installation Mass).
The "bishop" said that he valued giving the "blessing" as a "treasured memory" and was later invited by an English Catholic bishop to preach at the bishop's Mass. (I thought that Canon Law does not allow laymen to preach at Mass.)
The relevant section from John Allen's column:
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I had the privilege of spending five days in Durham, England, Jan. 13-16, on the grounds of picturesque 19th century Ushaw College, the Catholic seminary for northern England, at a unique summit of some of the best ecumenical minds in the English-speaking world.
The gathering began with the bestowal of an honorary doctorate upon Cardinal Walter Kasper, the Vatican's top official for Christian unity, by Durham University, which is launching a new program in Catholic studies.
The event was something like a five-day graduate seminar, bringing together bishops, theologians, and ecumenical experts for a wide-ranging conversation that covered such diverse subjects as Eucharistic ecclesiology, differences in theological method between the various confessions, the role of Scripture in ecumenical work, and the politics of ecclesiastical power.
It featured several moving liturgies.
At an opening Anglican service on Jan. 12, Kasper lined up during the distribution of communion to receive a blessing from Anglican Bishop N.T. Wright. The symbolism fired the imagination, in part because both Kasper and Wright are world-class theologians representing for many the "best and brightest" of their respective denominations, in part because the fraternal exchange came at a moment of crisis in Anglican-Catholic relations over the ordination of an openly gay Episcopalian bishop in the United States and the approval of a rite for blessing same-sex unions by an Anglican province in Canada.
Wright later said the exchange with Kasper will be a "treasured memory."
In the same spirit, Catholic Bishop Kevin Dunn of Hexham and Newcastle invited Wright to preach at a Jan. 14 Catholic Mass, and prayed with Wright before the distribution of communion. Asking Wright to give the homily, it should be noted, was slightly envelope-pushing, since church rules restrict the homily to a Catholic priest.
At times, the Durham gathering seemed to swing from hope to despair.
While there was an obvious effort to bring in a variety of perspectives, the center of gravity was clearly on the left, and many of the Catholics expressed grim views about the current state of affairs in the church. Several were veterans of post-Vatican II efforts at church reform, and tend to feel their dream is today being extinguished.
"I am deeply convinced that the big issue upon which the future of the church depends is collegiality," Jesuit Fr. Ladislas Örsy of Georgetown University said at one point. "It's the only way to break through this excessive centralization."
Dominican Sr. Geraldine Smyth of the Irish School of Ecumenics warned of a trend towards a "hardened canopy of identity."
Several participants expressed dissatisfaction, and even personal pain, over the inability of Catholics and Protestants to share the Eucharist. John Wilkins, former editor of the Tablet, called it "intolerable."
Many participants argued that ecumenical progress is dependent upon Catholic reforms, especially concerning the Vatican and the papacy.
Jesuit Fr. Thomas Reese, former editor of America magazine, said that the Catholic church needs ecumenism in order to reform itself, since, he said, it's often easier for Protestants to talk to the Vatican than for some Catholic theologians.
There was also, however, much positive conversation about the gains made in ecumenism.
"Changing a culture [inside the church] is a difficult exercise, but it is changing," said Archbishop Mario Conti of Glasgow, Scotland. "Look at the degree to which we can associate and cooperate. We're pushing in a direction the church is already going."
Fr. Donald Bolen, an official of the Vatican's Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity, said that the experience of 40 years of dialogue between churches is itself a "foretaste" of full communion.
"We meet together, eat together, pray together and recreate together," he said. "We become a stable and trusting group of Christian friends."
Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Posts: 1158 Location: Dar al-Harb
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:51 pm Post subject:
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I had the privilege of spending five days in Durham, England, Jan. 13-16, on the grounds of picturesque 19th century Ushaw College, the Catholic seminary for northern England, at a unique summit of some of the best ecumenical minds in the English-speaking world.
No THAT"S what I'd call a target-rich environment.
Where, oh where is the AQ GUN OWNERS CLUB when you really need them?!
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 4:06 pm Post subject: Re: Kasper the heretic
xcordeeclesiae wrote:
Kasper is so totally uncatholic that he must be removed promptly.
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Kasper is the Living, Breathing Proof that Wholesale Apostasy is running Rampant in the Church and continues to Undermine Pope Benedict XVI's already tenuous credibility. The Holy Pontiff should Excommunicate, or at least Sack him. Kyrie Eleison.
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I had the privilege of spending five days in Durham, England, Jan. 13-16, on the grounds of picturesque 19th century Ushaw College, the Catholic seminary for northern England, at a unique summit of some of the best ecumenical minds in the English-speaking world.
No THAT"S what I'd call a target-rich environment.
Where, oh where is the AQ GUN OWNERS CLUB when you really need them?!
Selous, I'm over seventy and was taught how to use a lee enfield by my father. Now I'm lucky to gum a burger to death! As an old lady, I'm always ready to take on any liberal minded clergy with a cane.
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 5:53 pm Post subject: cardinal Kasper
It was an abomination what he did, and thinking of, that he was once was one of the successors of my saintly relative, bishop Paul Wilhelm von Keppler, at the see of Rottenburg, makes me want to vomit!
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 5:58 pm Post subject: Tactical genius
Our new pope keeps Kasper, Sodomano etc. in top positions and in a move of "tactical genius" (according to neo-Cat believers) promotes lavender Levada to the CDF. Clearly "ultra-conservative" Pope Benedict "the greatest friend of traditionalists" is working hard to re-order the curia for the restoration of Christendom.
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 11:42 pm Post subject: Kasper, Ratzinger, Cassidy etc. ties to com. fronts
Before you read the below, I would encourage you to read who the Prague Christian Academy people are [most of the leading people have communist Party and or communist secret police background, they have ties all the way to the Vatican [including the CA president Dr. Halik's ties to JP2 and also he was an advisor to alleged KGB/GRU cadre "dissident" and then president of the Czech Republic Vaclav Havel.
This task has been fulfilled by regular lecturing in the individual sections and local groups. There has been series of lectures and individual lectures on current issues held for the general public.
Among the lecturers were:
Cardinals Edward Cassidy, Franz König, Joseph Ratzinger, Christoph Schönborn, Walter Kasper, Tomáš Å pidlÃk; Bishops Andreas Laun, Egon Kapellari, Josef Homeyer, Helmut Krätzl; several theologians, sociologists and philosophers from Europe, USA and Latin America, i.e. Michael Novak, Ernst-Ludwig Ehrlich, John T. Pawlikowski, Anselm Grün, Robert Fulghum, Jon Sobrino, Dietmar Mieth, Karl-Josef Kuschel, Miklós Tomka, Paul M. Zulehner, Manfred Spieker, Tomasz Weclawski.
The CA with the Chrysalis Ministries, a US educational organization, also held two very popular seminars for Catholic priests (in Olomouc and Plzeň, 1997) and a seminar for Christians in leading positions in politics and state administration.
[Ed. note - I'd like to know very much who they are, don't know anybody like that......not in the politics and CZ Government.....].
The CA has also been involved, together with the Defence Ministry, in the training of military chaplains in the last few years.
I have met Tom Wright once. Clever evangelical (most of his family are evangelicals, including his brother who was at my college) bible scholar who has become liberal as he gets older and more "episcopal".
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